Kurt,
The theme of your text messages have been that Jesus and Paul were false prophets. For me, there are several logical problems with you wanting them to be wrong. Perhaps I can share them some time.
I posted my last post in response to your ‘false prophet claims’ and followed up with one of my favorite verses that says, “As for me and my house I’ll serve the Lord.”
Somehow (and I don’t understand why) your response logic shifted from what Jesus and Paul said to how I life my Christian life. In response to my blog and text, you sent this text:
Unless you are willing to call upon the elders of the church and be anointed with oil and prayer - instead of running to doctors who probably don't even believe the Bible- then I won't be convinced of your theological views- because you don't believe them yourself.
You are still the man in the crowd- shouting how much you believe - but still won't get in the wheelbarrow.
This 'it's a privilege, not a command' means nothing if you don't have the faith to take him up on it. In fact it is most likely insulting to God.
I don't expect this of someone who has doubts ,but I do expect it from someone who claims to be so certain of the Bible, and from someone who would never call him wrong.
This week during our weekly study, I had the privilege to sit with 18 other men and study Luke 1.57-80. We are going through the book of Luke leading up to Christ’s birth. We were impressed how the Levites were divided into 24 groups back in Chronicles and how that instruction was still being followed 4-500 years later. Zachariah was an old man (80+/-) and as a priest he only got to serve the burning of the incense once in his lifetime.
God had not spoken to Israel from the Holy of Holies for over 400 years, but this day on Zachariah’s duty, Gabriel appeared! It really scared Zachariah, and naturally so!
Gabriel told Zachariah that his prayers for the nation of Israel, his prayer that a Messiah might come, were answered this day. The answer would start by Zachariah (in his old age, and with his wife being beyond the time to have children) having a son and his name would be John.
Zachariah, scared as he was, says, “Dude, how do I know that what you are telling me is true?” Paul’s observation was true here:
1Co 1:22-23 ESV For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, (23) but we preach Christ crucified, …
Zachariah was listing to an angel of God and he wanted a sign some evidence, as if the word from God was not enough!
After Gabriel told him just a part of his resume, he made Zachariah mute for 9 months. It’s worth noting that when Gabriel visited Mary three months later, Mary did not question him, she said, “Let it me as you have spoken.”
The point of this is, the truth of God’s word does not rest on the lives of his followers. To say that another way, those 18 men I was with love God because of what God has done, not because of what the other men have done. The oldest man of the group is near 90 and the youngest is in his 30s, we all look at and love God because of who God is, not because of who someone in the group is (or isn’t).
Christ died for us as sinners, and he does not require perfection from his followers!
Rom 5:6 ERV Christ died for us when we were unable to help ourselves. We were living against God, but at just the right time Christ died for us.
Rom 5:8 ERV But Christ died for us while we were still sinners, and by this God showed how much he loves us.
If I waited to find a church where everyone was perfect (where everyone did what I thought they should do – I think that is what you are asking) then I could not join because I would make it less than perfect.
1Jn 1:7-9 ERV We should live in the light, where God is. If we live in the light, we have fellowship with each other, and the blood sacrifice of Jesus, God's Son, washes away every sin and makes us clean. (8) If we say that we have no sin, we are fooling ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (9) But if we confess our sins, God will forgive us. We can trust God to do this. He always does what is right. He will make us clean from all the wrong things we have done.
But, since I’m not perfect and since I’m accepted by God, even when I’m not perfect, then I can accept those other 18 men and know that they are not perfect. We are all, together, working on the spirituality of our imperfection.
To be imperfect is to be human, if we were perfect then we’d be God.
When you die, and God asks why you didn’t believe his Son, will you reply, “I didn’t believe you because Ray went to the doctor”?
What I don’t understand is this: Since Jesus’ death in our place is the best deal on earth, why you are not looking for the ways to understand that it’s true rather than biting the hand that is feeding you (us)?