Kurt,
During our last conversation without Paul, over lunch, you
mentioned that the apostle Paul never saw Jesus, his conversion was a ‘near
death hallucination’ and therefore his writings could not be true or reliable. That
is a problem for me.
Since we did not live in the first century we must rely on
those that did for our knowledge. We rely on the writings of eyewitnesses that
wrote during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. When other eyewitnesses accept
an event as true then we too must accept their accounts as true. To keep from
getting it wrong, I’ll quote some New Testament verses to make my point.
Luke wrote in the introduction to his Gospel:
Luk 1:1-4
NET. Now many have undertaken to compile an
account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, (2) like the accounts passed on to us by those
who were eyewitnesses and servants of the word from the beginning. (3) So it seemed good to me as well, because I
have followed all things carefully from the beginning, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent
Theophilus, (4) so
that you may know for certain the things you were taught.
And he followed this with
the introduction to Acts:
Act 1:1-5 NET. I wrote
the former account, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach (2) until the day he was taken up to heaven,
after he had given orders by the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had
chosen. (3) To the
same apostles also, after his suffering, he presented himself alive with many
convincing proofs. He was seen by them over a forty-day period and spoke
about matters concerning the kingdom of God.
(4)
While he was with them, he declared, "Do not leave Jerusalem, but
wait there for what my Father promised, which you heard about from me. (5) For John baptized with water, but you will be
baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now."
Then in chapter 6 Luke
reports the account of Stephen and how Saul (Paul) was guarding the coats of
the Stephen stoners and how he went on the persecute the church.
Act 7:58 NET. When they
had driven him out of the city, they began to stone him, and the witnesses laid
their cloaks at the feet of a young man
named Saul.
Act 8:1 NET. And Saul agreed completely with killing him. Now on that day a great persecution began
against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were forced to
scatter throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria.
Act 8:3 NET. But Saul was trying to destroy the church;
entering one house after another, he dragged off both men and women and put
them in prison.
Act 8:4 NET. Now those
who had been forced to scatter went
around proclaiming the good news of the word.
Paul agreed that he persecuted
the church:
1Co 15:9 NET. For I am
the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I
persecuted the church of God.
Gal 1:13 NET. For you
have heard of my former way of life in Judaism, how I was savagely persecuting the church of God and trying to destroy it.
Php 3:6 NET. In my zeal for God I persecuted the church.
According to the righteousness stipulated in the law I was blameless.
1Ti 1:12-14 NET. I am
grateful to the one who has strengthened me, Christ Jesus our Lord, because he
considered me faithful in putting me into ministry, (13) even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor, and an arrogant man.
But I was treated with mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief, (14) and our Lord's grace was abundant, bringing
faith and love in Christ Jesus.
Luke records Paul’s
conversion and some following events in Acts 9, I’ve copied it here so I don’t
get any details wrong:
Act 9:1-25 NLT Meanwhile,
Saul was uttering threats with every
breath and was eager to kill the Lord's followers. So he went to the high
priest. (2) He requested letters addressed to the
synagogues in Damascus, asking for their cooperation in the arrest of any
followers of the Way he found there. He wanted to bring them—both
men and women—back to Jerusalem in chains.
(3) As he was
approaching Damascus on this mission, a
light from heaven suddenly shone down around him. (4) He fell to the ground and heard a voice
saying to him, "Saul! Saul! Why are you
persecuting Me?" (5) "Who
are You, lord?" Saul asked. And the voice replied, "I am Jesus, the one you are
persecuting! (6) Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what
you must do." (7) The men
with Saul stood speechless, for they heard the sound of someone's voice but saw
no one! (8) Saul picked himself up off the ground, but
when he opened his eyes he was blind. So his companions led him by the hand to
Damascus. (9) He remained there blind for three days and
did not eat or drink.
(10) Now there
was a believer in Damascus named Ananias. The Lord spoke to him in a vision,
calling, "Ananias!" "Yes,
Lord!" he replied. (11) The Lord
said, "Go over to Straight Street, to the house
of Judas. When you get there, ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul. He is
praying to Me right now. (12) I have shown him
a vision of a man named Ananias coming in and laying hands on him so he can see
again." (13) "But Lord," exclaimed Ananias,
"I've heard many people talk about the terrible things this man has done
to the believers in Jerusalem! (14) And he is
authorized by the leading priests to arrest everyone who calls upon Your
name." (15) But the Lord said, "Go,
for Saul is My chosen instrument to take My message to the Gentiles and to
kings, as well as to the people of Israel. (16) And I will show him
how much he must suffer for My name's sake."
(17) So Ananias
went and found Saul. He laid his hands on him and said, "Brother Saul, the
Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road, has sent me so that you might
regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." (18) Instantly something like scales fell from
Saul's eyes, and he regained his sight. Then he got up and was baptized.
(19) Afterward
he ate some food and regained his strength. Saul stayed with the believers in
Damascus for a few days. (20) And
immediately he began preaching about Jesus in the synagogues, saying, "He is indeed the Son of God!"
(21) All who
heard him were amazed. "Isn't this the same man who caused such
devastation among Jesus' followers in Jerusalem?" they asked. "And
didn't he come here to arrest them and take them in chains to the leading
priests?" (22) Saul's preaching became more and more
powerful, and the Jews in Damascus
couldn't refute his proofs that Jesus was indeed the Messiah.
(23) After a
while some of the Jews plotted together to kill him. (24) They were watching for him day and night at
the city gate so they could murder him, but Saul was told about their
plot. (25) So during the night, some of the other
believers lowered him in a large basket through an opening in the city wall.
First, after Jesus, it’s
Ananias that believes Paul was converted on the road to Damascus. Paul was a
highly successful young Jewish scholar on his first ‘road trip’ and before
reaching Damascus he did a 180 in his character. We can’t assume he did it to
enhance his career. Something dramatic must happen to cause a man to do what Paul
did.
He tells his story this
way:
Gal 1:11-24 ERV Brothers and sisters, I want you to
know that the Good News message I told
you was not made up by anyone. (12)
I did not get my message from any other
human. The Good News is not something I learned from other people. Jesus Christ himself gave it to me. He
showed me the Good News that I should tell people.
(13) You have heard
about my past life in the Jewish religion. I
persecuted the church of God very much. I tried to destroy his people.
(14) I was becoming a leader
in the Jewish religion. I did better than most other Jews my own age. I tried
harder than anyone else to follow the traditions we got from our ancestors.
(15) But God had special plans for me even before I was born. So he
chose me through his grace.
(16) It pleased him to let me see
and know his Son so that I could tell the Good News about him to the
non-Jewish people. I immediately prepared to do this work without asking for
advice or help from anyone. (17)
I did not go to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was. But,
without waiting, I went away to Arabia. Later, I went back to the city of
Damascus.
(18) Three years later I went
to Jerusalem to meet Peter. I stayed with him 15 days. (19) I met no other apostles—only James, the brother of the
Lord. (20) God knows there is nothing untrue in any of this. (21) Later, I went to the areas of Syria and
Cilicia. (22) No one in any of
Christ's churches in Judea had ever met me before. (23) They had only heard this about me:
"This man was persecuting us. But now he is telling people about the same
faith that he once tried to destroy." (24)
These believers praised God because of me.
Barnabas was the first Jerusalem
believer to accept Paul’s conversion experience followed by Peter and James:
Act 9:26-30 NLT When Saul
arrived in Jerusalem, he tried to meet with the believers, but they were all
afraid of him. They did not believe he had truly become a believer! (27) Then
Barnabas brought him to the apostles and told them how Saul had seen the Lord
on the way to Damascus and how the Lord had spoken to Saul. He also told
them that Saul had preached boldly in the name of Jesus in Damascus.
(28) So Saul
stayed with the apostles and went all around Jerusalem with them, preaching
boldly in the name of the Lord. (29) He
debated with some Greek-speaking Jews, but they
tried to murder him. (30) When the
believers heard about this, they took him down to Caesarea and sent him away to
Tarsus, his hometown.
The main point here is the
people on the ground saw a 180 change in Paul’s life and they had the
opportunity to disclaim what he said – but they believed him and God used him,
this seems to me to be proof that his story is real.
From here on I’ll not
quote the rest of the New Testament (most of which Paul wrote) but only hit
some high points of people that believed Paul’s account of his conversion and
proved their beliefs with their lives.
Luke – he dedicated his life
to traveling with and helping Paul.
Barnabas – was the first Jerusalem
apostle to accept Paul’s conversion and traveled with him on his first missionary
journey. Paul’s conversion was real to Barnabas.
Timothy – as a young boy he saw
him stoned and later spent his live under Paul’s teaching and continued after
his death.
Aristarchus – a Macedonian, traveled with
Paul and Luke on their eventful ship ride to Rome.
Without belaboring this
point further, I want to go on record saying because of the acceptance of Paul’s
conversion by his contemporizes in the book of Acts, his conversion is credible
to me. Also, I want to state, for the record, that I don’t see any conflict in Jesus’s
teachings and Paul’s teaching.
Since Paul is Jesus’s pick
to carry his Good News to the Gentiles I cannot assume, nor understand how they
can be teaching different doctrine. If there is any gap between what they teach
and my understanding, then it’s my understanding that is faulty – not Jesus’ plan.